Class Rules for races

[bambooi]

Could I get a list or a link for the class rules? I see you guys race 1/8th buggy, truggy, and short course. On the results page, it says like B-main and A-main. Would anyone explain what that means to me? Also how much does one person pay to race? Thanks

[Doxiedad]

The A main and B main is when there are too many entrants for 1 main. The A main is the top 8 drivers based on the 3 qualifying heats you run earler in the day as well as the top two from the B main which is run earlier.

For Short Course it has to be a Stock RTR Short Course truck with closed end bell brushed motor. You can use a 2s lipo and put your radio gear in it. Everything else has to be stock, though you can have say a Traxxas servo on an HPI truck. Just has to be stock.

[bambooi]

Is brushless allowed for the buggy class or does it have to be nitro?

[Doxiedad]

Yes, I'm gonna be running an Xray 808 converted to brushless, and I've seen a Losi 2.0 E running too. Don't know if we'll start a seperate E buggy class or not.

[coryf]

Wouldn't mind seeing an electric 1/8th buggy class. Would give me a place to run the 2.0e more often.

[bambooi]

Are you allowed to run with the nitros? What kind of motor, esc, and battery setup do you have?

Also if you are not allowed to run with the 2.0e are you just bashing with it?

[Doxiedad]

I'm running a MMM esc with 2200KV Castle motor on 4S. I think I've seen an electric running with the nitro buggies. Would be cool if we got our own class

[coryf]

My 2.0e was running a Losi esc with 2200 kv losi motor on a losi 5000 4s lipo. Thiking of switching the brand of esc though. I am allowed to run in the nitro class but I can't make a 20 minute main without a battery change so I run my nitro 2.0 instead.

An electric class would be nice because we could shorten the mains to 15minutes without a pit stop.

[bambooi]

If the mains are that long, the ideal thing to do is to go down to 1400KV and get 6s battery with 3000+mah. You will get longer run times, and a more efficient setup(cooler temps and possibly less weight). How fast is the current track (mph)? 2200KV is overkill (too much torque and speed) and you are draining your batteries because I looked at the current track and it doesn't seem that fast. I know most of the electric 1/8 racing guys are running 1900KV setups, but they are forced to run the roar limited 4s batteries.

Also for the nitro 1/8 buggy class, is there an engine limit like only .21?

[coryf]

The fastest buggy guys on the new layout averaged 19.5 mph for the a main. I was thinking of just turning down the throttle to see if I could squeak the e to 20 minutes. It would go 16 to 17 before. Don't think there is a engine rule for nitro buggy. I think everyone is running .21 though. Not enough runtime with a .28 engine.

[bambooi]

What do you think top speed is on the track? I know some people with a low kv motor and a high voltage battery are getting 20-25minute run times according to rc/tech. They are geared to like 35-40 mph on the straight.

[theycallmejam]

What do you think top speed is on the track? I know some people with a low kv motor and a high voltage battery are getting 20-25minute run times according to rc/tech. They are geared to like 35-40 mph on the straight.

with a 17.5?

[Doxiedad]

If the mains are that long, the ideal thing to do is to go down to 1400KV and get 6s battery with 3000+mah. You will get longer run times, and a more efficient setup(cooler temps and possibly less weight). How fast is the current track (mph)? 2200KV is overkill (too much torque and speed) and you are draining your batteries because I looked at the current track and it doesn't seem that fast. I know most of the electric 1/8 racing guys are running 1900KV setups, but they are forced to run the roar limited 4s batteries.

Also for the nitro 1/8 buggy class, is there an engine limit like only .21?

Yeah but I only have a 2200KV at the moment :( I have it geared 12/42 and after a couple of test runs at WOT in my yard was temping like 110. Don't know about runtime yet, maybe tomorrow I"ll see

[bambooi]

with a 17.5?

This is with a 1400KV motor and 6s battery on 1400 MAH according to some threads on rctech on the ve8 buggy.
we run 6S 1400 in our buggy's and get 20 min run time with no heat issues and all the power you'll ever want.

we also run 6S 1350 in the truggy's.

We are buying 6S 3000 packs off e-bay for $58 shipped. They have proven to be very good packs. They are short and wide keeping the center of gravity low. I can dbl check to see if one fits in the HB V8 tonight. We had a new guy discharge one to 16V ( usually set cut off at 19.2) and it charged right back up on a FMA cell pro 10S, no swelling and not one bit of performance loss.

just type in 6S 3000 in the search.

silver pack with blk and yellow label.
My buddy runs the 6s 1400kv setup and i run the 1900kv 4s setup. he uses the 3300 pack for the longer run times and i believe a 2650 for qualifiers, he gets about the same run time with the 3300 pack as i do with the 5000 pack (20-23min). I have been running a 20T and he has been running a 19T, he is slightly faster on the straights, if i go up a tooth we are about the same. the main advantage to the 6s is lower temperatures, if you could fit a 5000 6s in the ve8 you could get over a half hour of run time but the pack would be a brick.

I just went with the 4s because that was what everyone seemed to be running at the time. I have been thinking about switching to the 6s 1400kv setup but i don't feel like I gain that much over what i already have. hope this helps a little.

[theycallmejam]

This is with a 1400KV motor and 6s battery on 1400 MAH according to some threads on rctech on the ve8 buggy.

what you ae talking about it 1/8, the sct's use a differant motor, much smaller. i thought you meant some slashes were geting those speeds. plus the sct's are only using 2s batts

[bambooi]

what you ae talking about it 1/8, the sct's use a differant motor, much smaller. i thought you meant some slashes were geting those speeds. plus the sct's are only using 2s batts

We have been talking about 1/8th the whole time. SCT use much higher kv motors.

[Doxiedad]

So I have an E Buggy and I know of at least one other one maybe we can scare up a 3rd and start running our own class :nicedoggy:

[bambooi]

You guys can't beat the nitros? :p

[Doxiedad]

Hell I can't beat anyone :lol-floor:

I'm just thinking more of runtimes. Don't buggy mains run like 30 mins? Guess I could get a pit man and hope 2 sets of batteries is enough.

[bambooi]

Wow I had no idea they were that long.

[Doxiedad]

I think so, maybe it was just for the big memorial day race. I'm sure someone will let me know if I'm wrong about it. Should be getting my new servo and batteries next weekend, should have her ready for the 26th offroad racing at MCR.

[bambooi]

I think so, maybe it was just for the big memorial day race. I'm sure someone will let me know if I'm wrong about it. Should be getting my new servo and batteries next weekend, should have her ready for the 26th offroad racing at MCR.

I just looked and according to the last race it is 30 minutes.

[Doxiedad]

I just looked and according to the last race it is 30 minutes.

Yeah but that was a trophy race. I think for club races it's 15 mins. If that's the case I'll be ready for them nitros :atenhut:

Got Jason hooking me up with some stuff to get my buggy ready

[sluggoman]

So I have an E Buggy and I know of at least one other one maybe we can scare up a 3rd and start running our own class :nicedoggy:

I'll race with ya.

[Doxiedad]

I'll race with ya.

Well I guess I ain't skeered of racing against the nitro's. But if we run a class of 3 E Buggies I'm guaranteed to get a plaque LOL

[cory b]

I just got back from Afghanistan, so I will be racing my 8ight-E with you guys very soon. You shouldnt be scared of no nitros though, I beat up on them all the time ;)

As far as runtime, I have a 2050 kv with a losi 5000mah lipo and can get 15 min easy. i am however, switching to a Maxamps 6500mah 60C lipo. making 20 min should be super easy now. if not, i will drop to a 1900kv or 1700kv. but the guys at Maxamps told me to stick with the 2050, and i should be fine

See ya at the races!

[Doxiedad]

I just got back from Afghanistan, so I will be racing my 8ight-E with you guys very soon. You shouldnt be scared of no nitros though, I beat up on them all the time ;)

As far as runtime, I have a 2050 kv with a losi 5000mah lipo and can get 15 min easy. i am however, switching to a Maxamps 6500mah 60C lipo. making 20 min should be super easy now. if not, i will drop to a 1900kv or 1700kv. but the guys at Maxamps told me to stick with the 2050, and i should be fine

See ya at the races!

Welcome back and thanks for your service. I look forward to being able to race my E Buggy, heck even just getting some practice laps in with it LOL

[sluggoman]

I just got back from Afghanistan, so I will be racing my 8ight-E with you guys very soon. You shouldnt be scared of no nitros though, I beat up on them all the time ;)

As far as runtime, I have a 2050 kv with a losi 5000mah lipo and can get 15 min easy. i am however, switching to a Maxamps 6500mah 60C lipo. making 20 min should be super easy now. if not, i will drop to a 1900kv or 1700kv. but the guys at Maxamps told me to stick with the 2050, and i should be fine

See ya at the races!

Welcome back bud! Thanks for keeping us all a bit safer on this side of the pond.

See ya at the track (haven't been much this summer)