Short Course Racing

[Doxiedad]

What classes/kinds of short course trucks do you race in MC and elsewhere in the state? I imagine there is probably a stock/spec Slash class. How about for the other SC trucks? Any classes that let you run stock Blitz, SC10 etc? How about 4x4 SC trucks?

Thanks
:raceme:

[ChampionRC]

What classes/kinds of short course trucks do you race in MC and elsewhere in the state? I imagine there is probably a stock/spec Slash class. How about for the other SC trucks? Any classes that let you run stock Blitz, SC10 etc? How about 4x4 SC trucks?

Thanks
:raceme:

The trend I am seeing is the Slash spec going by the wayside to make room for all 2wd trucks. So Stock 2WD, Mod 2WD (or open), then 4WD (or open). I think mod 2wd will die in the wake of 4WD. BUt to answer your question, I don't know. :nanabooboo:

[Doxiedad]

Ok thanks. Was looking @ 1/8 buggy for bashing/club racing but I think I might go SC instead. Not sure yet.

[Ed Pasoquen]

Last time we ran on road , we ran box stock 2wd Slash , it was a blast !!

[Doxiedad]

Do you only run on road? Will you be running the offroad track with them? I'd really rather get another truck than the slash (though the 4x4 slash looks tough)

Thanks

[Ed Pasoquen]

Do you only run on road? Will you be running the offroad track with them? I'd really rather get another truck than the slash (though the 4x4 slash looks tough)

Thanks

We race them on both tracks

[Doxiedad]

Awesome. Is it limited to Slash or could I race a stock SC10 or Blitz?

Thanks

[Ed Pasoquen]

Awesome. Is it limited to Slash or could I race a stock SC10 or Blitz?

Thanks

Any box stock SC truck , 6 or 7 cell , or 2c lipo, just trying to get it a fun class , not how deep your pockets are.

[Doxiedad]

Awesome thanks for info.

[shinta]

next time we race in gen im going to bring a car up there, and let you tell me if i can run SC or not with it.

[TagDragger]

Hey Ed , how bout something like this for rules for SC Trucks . I copied and pasted it from another track's site that imma be runnin when i can too . It's from Bandit's up in Darlington . Well aside from the club pack usage , these seem like they would work for MCR too . Just throwing it out there . They tested all the motors listed and with the right gearing they are all equal or close enough to not notice a difference .

2010 CORR-2 RACE TRUCK CLASS SPECIFICATIONS:

* Posted by Bryan Howle on November 24, 2008 at 1:34pm in 2010 CORR-2 RACE TRUCK SPECIFICATIONS
* Back to 2010 CORR-2 RACE TRUCK SPECIFICATIONS Discussions

For the 2010 Racing Season, the following rules will govern the CORR-2 Race Truck Class:



1. Vehicles: Traxxas SLASH SC Race Truck, Losi STRIKE SC Race Truck, HPI BLITZ SC Race Truck and Associated SC10 SC Race Truck.



2. Battery: BRP Club 2Cell, 5000mAh LiPo Battery.



3. Motor: Team Orion #66045 Short Course Brushless Motor/ESC Combo. ESC setting shall remain as "factory default". Racers will have the option of running the Traxxas 12T Titan or Losi 14T brushed motors utilizing the ESC that came with the particular vehicle.



4. Gear Ratio: To be determined and posted.



5. Wheels & Tires: Any dual profile (2.2/3.0) tire wheel combination as offered by Traxxas, HPI, Losi or Associated. Proline dual profile (2.2/3.0) Split Six Bead Lock Wheels may be utilized in conjunction with the approved tires. Also, tire/wheel combinations from the Traxxas 4WD Slash and Ofna 10SC are allowed in the Class.



6. Bodies: Full Fender Truck Bodies are to be utilized. Body must completely cover the tires when viewed from above. Aftermarket chassis covers may be utilized.



7. TX/RX: Radio and Receiver may be changed out.



8. Noval Smart Stop can be added to ESC for LiPo Battery use.



9. Stock Shocks to be utilized with any spring/shock oil combination. Shock caps may be changed to optional aluminium ones made by Traxxas. Slash racers have the option of changing out the stock Traxxas plastic body shocks to the Traxxas Aluminum Shocks (#4760/#4761).No other "aftermarket" or Traxxas "big bore" shocks permitted.



10. RPM aftermarket parts may be substituted for the stock suspension components as long as the substituted part does not provide an competitive advantage.



11. Differentials may be either ball type or planetary gear type. Regardless of type selected by racer, differentials MUST be fully operational.



12. Chassis or Suspension components may NOT be altered, modified or lightened in an attempt to obtain a competitive advantage. The intent of the class is to run the CORR-2 Truck Class in basically a "box stock" chassis/suspension configeration. With the exception of the above, if it did not come on the truck, it cannot be used.



Rules will be reviewed periodically to incorporate revisions as the class grows and more items for the trucks become available. Rule changes will become effective with the start of the next racing season or series and not for the next race.

Just an idea to be able to upgrade the POS Titan motor and keep things cheap as well as run all SC trucks together .

[ShagNasty]

next time we race in gen im going to bring a car up there, and let you tell me if i can run SC or not with it.

well if it didnt start life originally as a Short Course truck, or it wasnt assembled totally of short course truck parts, then it isnt a short course class truck.

[ShagNasty]

most tracks are adopting the rules from Psycho Nitro Blast, and seems to work pretty well:

Psycho Nitro Blast 2WD Stock Short Course Truck Rules
This class is for all 2WD Ready-To-Run Short Course Trucks. All manufacturers are welcome in this class, with the following restrictions:
Chassis:
- The chassis must remain in stock form. No aftermarket chassis may be used.
Body:
- The body used must be a full-fender truck body that is specifically made for short course trucks.
- The body must completely cover the tires when viewed from above.
- No add-on spoilers or wings allowed.
Tires and Wheels:
- All tires and wheels must be made specifically for short course trucks.
- Wheel Inner Bead Max Diameter……………………….. 3.0 in / 76.20mm
- Wheel Outer Bead Max Diameter………………………. 2.2 in / 55.88mm
- Wheel Bead Width Max………………………………… 1.55 in / 39.37mm
- Wheel Width Max………………………………………. 1.65 in / 41.91mm
- Tire Maximum Width…(mounted)...…………………… 1.85 in / 46.99mm
- Tire Diameter Min…(mounted)...………………………. 4.20 in / 106.68mm
- Tire Tread……………………………………………….. Treaded, NO Cut/Custom
Driveline:
- Gear or Ball differentials allowed.
- Any pinion or spur that fits the vehicle without modification may be used.
Suspension:
All suspension parts must remain stock, with the following exceptions:
- Traxxas Slash and other SCT brands that have plastic shocks are allowed to use OEM (original equipment manufacturer) aluminum bodies*. Pro-line or any other after-market brand upgrade is not allowed. However, ANY brand aluminum cap can be used as long as springs remain OEM. *No Big Bores allowed.
- Any shocks from any RTR kit may be used on another brand of RTR kit, so long as the suspension arms do not have to be modified in any way.
- Springs must remain stock.

Motor:
- Only motors that come with the Ready-To-Run kits will be allowed.
- A motor from a different brand of RTR SCT may be used (Example: A Traxxas 12T Titan may be used on an Associated SC10, etc)
- The Electronic Speed Control used must be one that comes included with a Ready-To-Run Short Course Truck. It may be from a different manufacturer.
- No brushless motors may be used.
- Examples of legal motors for this class include the 12T Titan (Traxxas), 15T Firebolt (HPI), Reedy 17T (Associated), 12T 550 Losi motor.
Batteries:
- 2S 7.4v LiPo packs (no capacity limit) and 7.2v 6-cell NiMH packs (no capacity limit) are allowed.
- ** The battery mount on the vehicle may be modified in any way to accommodate for a faster battery swap.
Weight:
- All trucks must weigh no less than 4.75 pounds race-ready.

Parts from one brand of Ready-To-Run kit may be used on another brand, but the part must be available on a Ready-To-Run kit. (Example – shocks from a Losi kit being used on an HPI, etc).

Any issues not addressed in these rules may be discussed with the race directors. All decisions by the race directors are final.

REVISED: January 5th, 2010

[shinta]

well if it didnt start life originally as a Short Course truck, or it wasnt assembled totally of short course truck parts, then it isnt a short course class truck.


true but at a club race if every one is ok with it then i might be able to get away with it , none the less its still needs some work. i know i can run it in pro truck the sad thing is its nitro right now. until i can get the esc and motor to change it over.

non the less its a blast to play with. a evader st with SC tires on it, with a truck body .

[TagDragger]

Here's a good SC truck . LOL . Box stock it is hopped up bigtime . lol . Too bad it wouldn't be legal for the box stock class . lol .

http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/104558/:firehead::raceme:

[Doxiedad]

most tracks are adopting the rules from Psycho Nitro Blast, and seems to work pretty well:

Psycho Nitro Blast 2WD Stock Short Course Truck Rules
This class is for all 2WD Ready-To-Run Short Course Trucks. All manufacturers are welcome in this class, with the following restrictions:
Chassis:
- The chassis must remain in stock form. No aftermarket chassis may be used.
Body:
- The body used must be a full-fender truck body that is specifically made for short course trucks.
- The body must completely cover the tires when viewed from above.
- No add-on spoilers or wings allowed.
Tires and Wheels:
- All tires and wheels must be made specifically for short course trucks.
- Wheel Inner Bead Max Diameter……………………….. 3.0 in / 76.20mm
- Wheel Outer Bead Max Diameter………………………. 2.2 in / 55.88mm
- Wheel Bead Width Max………………………………… 1.55 in / 39.37mm
- Wheel Width Max………………………………………. 1.65 in / 41.91mm
- Tire Maximum Width…(mounted)...…………………… 1.85 in / 46.99mm
- Tire Diameter Min…(mounted)...………………………. 4.20 in / 106.68mm
- Tire Tread……………………………………………….. Treaded, NO Cut/Custom
Driveline:
- Gear or Ball differentials allowed.
- Any pinion or spur that fits the vehicle without modification may be used.
Suspension:
All suspension parts must remain stock, with the following exceptions:
- Traxxas Slash and other SCT brands that have plastic shocks are allowed to use OEM (original equipment manufacturer) aluminum bodies*. Pro-line or any other after-market brand upgrade is not allowed. However, ANY brand aluminum cap can be used as long as springs remain OEM. *No Big Bores allowed.
- Any shocks from any RTR kit may be used on another brand of RTR kit, so long as the suspension arms do not have to be modified in any way.
- Springs must remain stock.

Motor:
- Only motors that come with the Ready-To-Run kits will be allowed.
- A motor from a different brand of RTR SCT may be used (Example: A Traxxas 12T Titan may be used on an Associated SC10, etc)
- The Electronic Speed Control used must be one that comes included with a Ready-To-Run Short Course Truck. It may be from a different manufacturer.
- No brushless motors may be used.
- Examples of legal motors for this class include the 12T Titan (Traxxas), 15T Firebolt (HPI), Reedy 17T (Associated), 12T 550 Losi motor.
Batteries:
- 2S 7.4v LiPo packs (no capacity limit) and 7.2v 6-cell NiMH packs (no capacity limit) are allowed.
- ** The battery mount on the vehicle may be modified in any way to accommodate for a faster battery swap.
Weight:
- All trucks must weigh no less than 4.75 pounds race-ready.

Parts from one brand of Ready-To-Run kit may be used on another brand, but the part must be available on a Ready-To-Run kit. (Example – shocks from a Losi kit being used on an HPI, etc).

Any issues not addressed in these rules may be discussed with the race directors. All decisions by the race directors are final.

REVISED: January 5th, 2010

The only thing I don't like about that is the stock motors. I thought all the stock rtr motors were junk. Wouldn't you be spending a lot more $$ to keep replacing them? I thought a 17.5 turn brushless was legal in "stock spec" racing? or is that ROAR?

[TagDragger]

Team Orion has a brushless setup made especially for SC trucks . BRP actually says it is legal at their track , but it is the only brushless option , well at their track anyways . They have tested it against the stock brushed ones in the RTRs and it is about even with em .Here is another copy/paste from the other forum :
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"The brushless system that will be utilized for the CORR Truck Class will be the Experience 2 Pro Brushless Motor/ ESC w/ Fan Combo that was developed by Team Orion for the Short Course Trucks.The motor is rated at 3750kv, the part number for the combo is ORI66045. This system will allow a level playing field for all racers and will eliminate all of the variables that would have been there had we gone another way.

We ran the brushless options yesterday.

A. Stock ESC, 12 turn Titan
B. Orion Combo
C. Novak Havok 13.5 Turn Combo

Slash and Blitz brushless runs against the Stock Titan

The Orion as expected is strong. But given some gear changes, we had them all within 2 feet of each other on a long straight run. On a short straight, equivalent to the straights on the track, there is virtually no difference. Great you say, but even so all is not equal do to the difference in the motor KV's and power band. As I said, the Orion is strong, both in low end punch and good at the top end.

After some conversations with the testors, it makes more sense from an ease of use standpoint to go with the Orion Combo. It eliminates the issue of standardization and levels the playing field in the ESC/Motor area given some gear ratio restrictions for the varying chassis's. The Orion combo is plug and play and uses existing Slash mounts.

I think I speak for several members when I state that it would have been better if the Orion Combo was available before we had the member's meeting. Some of us have invested heavily in Novak electronics and motors. Such is life........and we move on.........

Get the Orion combo for the stock class, good value for the money and it should eliminate the stock motor maintenance/replacement issue.
The intent is to allow the Traxxas Slash, Losi Strike, HPI Blitz and Associated SC10 to run together in the CORR Race Truck Class. All four (4) trucks will be utilizing the same BL Motor, ESC and Battery. The gear ratios for each of the four (4) trucks will be set so that the final gear ratios will be very close to each other.

[Doxiedad]

Team Orion has a brushless setup made especially for SC trucks . BRP actually says it is legal at their track , but it is the only brushless option , well at their track anyways . They have tested it against the stock brushed ones in the RTRs and it is about even with em .

That sounds cool. I'm noobish but I've read that the brushless are more efficient and less maintenance too. That's what I'm interested in. Definately not looking for high $$ advantage ya know

[TagDragger]

That sounds cool. I'm noobish but I've read that the brushless are more efficient and less maintenance too. That's what I'm interested in. Definately not looking for high $$ advantage ya know

Yes brushless is less maintenance (more or less maintenance free) and the Team Orion setup is not too bad priced either . The Titan motors were pretty much a crap shoot as far as how strong they were and how many races they'd last . Mine is about a year old , with not a whole lot of runs on it and i can tell a huge drop in performance with it . Then ya got people like Mark King that have one that is strong as can be . I'd love to see all tracks around here agree to a set of rules that allow certain brushless setups like the Orion . You have any suggestions Shag ?

[Doxiedad]

Well the decision was made for me. Wife picked me up a Slash :raceme:

Played with it today and it was a lot of fun.

[slicrick]

yes brushless is less maintenance (more or less maintenance free) and the team orion setup is not too bad priced either . The titan motors were pretty much a crap shoot as far as how strong they were and how many races they'd last . Mine is about a year old , with not a whole lot of runs on it and i can tell a huge drop in performance with it . Then ya got people like mark king that have one that is strong as can be . I'd love to see all tracks around here agree to a set of rules that allow certain brushless setups like the orion . You have any suggestions shag ?

well you know king !!!!!!!!

[Doxiedad]

I looked up the orion combo and it looks nice but it's $190. The vxl system that comes with the new slash 4x4 can be bought new from a chop shop for about $130. Any idea if this setup would be adopted?

[shinta]

mark said something about the easyer the drive line spins the more power you can get. his motor bight be the same power wise as yours but if your drive line is binding up even a lil it take seem like you have loss power.

[TagDragger]

mark said something about the easyer the drive line spins the more power you can get. his motor bight be the same power wise as yours but if your drive line is binding up even a lil it take seem like you have loss power.

Mine spins free as can be , it's just the motor . And the orion setup i was looking at i am gonna be gettin for $144 . Not to mention it made special for Short Course trucks . I am going to be getting one soon as an allowable option to run at another track , and either a HPI Blitz or an Associated SC10 . Maybe we can run it against a stock setup and see how it compares , and maybe we can get some others and try em against others . The other track will be using the Team Orion combo literally box stock as far as the performance settings go . Meaning take it out of the box , drop it in the truck , set it for your controller , and run it .

[Doxiedad]

So as of right now among the local tracks there is no consensus as to what brushless system would be allowed on a "stock" spec class? Guess I'd better just wait until there is one.

Looks like the Titan is only $24 or so I haven't really looked hard for it. So if my motor dies I'll just get another.

[mark king]

well you know king !!!!!!!!

you can get my motor anytimmy . it can go allday for $ 25.00 off my slash . my truck is stock you all can get the truck for 200.00 .when do you wont it?

[mark king]

Mine spins free as can be , it's just the motor . And the orion setup i was looking at i am gonna be gettin for $144 . Not to mention it made special for Short Course trucks . I am going to be getting one soon as an allowable option to run at another track , and either a HPI Blitz or an Associated SC10 . Maybe we can run it against a stock setup and see how it compares , and maybe we can get some others and try em against others . The other track will be using the Team Orion combo literally box stock as far as the performance settings go . Meaning take it out of the box , drop it in the truck , set it for your controller , and run it .

it is not the motor . i can take your truck and put my set up on it and run up frunt . but you can get my motor just bring me a new one and you can have it.how about that . anyonecan get it for that. then lets see what going to be sead.

[mark king]

i try to help all the people out there . i dont know it all .but if i dont know i will tell you i dont know..... when i try to help youall youall look at me like i dum. but i run up frunt most the time in the top 5. so i cant make you do the work on them

[TagDragger]

Yea , i need to listen a lot more to you and a few others n calm my trigger finger down . lol .

[TagDragger]

So we are still on for Off road this weekend ? I will be prepared for either . lol . Gettin ready to go to hobbytown n pick up a few things (if they have what i need ) . Racing Saturday or Sunday ? i'm thinking of bringing my nephew and lettin him run my slash around .

[ShagNasty]

i try to help all the people out there . i dont know it all .but if i dont know i will tell you i dont know..... when i try to help youall youall look at me like i dum. but i run up frunt most the time in the top 5. so i cant make you do the work on them

i cant see much past 5 feet, so maybe that is why i look at you like i am dumb

[shinta]

i cant see much past 5 feet, so maybe that is why i look at you like i am dumb

lol

no what time are we racing i have only the front of my lift kit on my jeep the back should not be to bad, and then i just got to put in ujonts and get tries. should have things done by 12 i hope

[Doxiedad]

I just realized that the battery that came with my slash is 8.4 volts. Guess I'd have to get more batteries to be race legal :(

[ShagNasty]

I just realized that the battery that came with my slash is 8.4 volts. Guess I'd have to get more batteries to be race legal :(

you can run 2s lipo or up to a 7 cell nimh/nicad so you are good

[Doxiedad]

Oh really? Sweet!! I just picked up a 2nd traxxas battery for $25. Not gonna spend big money on nimh batteries when I want to go LiPO.

[mark king]

i cant see much past 5 feet, so maybe that is why i look at you like i am dumb

lol:workingaway::workingaway::football::poo::poo:: poo::poo:

[theycallmejam]

hey jason, what is the losi xceloron 4800 equvalite too? 10.5, 8.5 ect ect

[TagDragger]

i think it'd be about an 8.5 if i remember right . Me and Brian from BRP were talking about that the other day . BTW is it too late to call ya ?

[ShagNasty]

the 4800 would be closest to a 6.5T sensored motor

[TagDragger]

My Blitz is in transit and is supposed to be here Saturday , if i can get Sunday off i will be out and bring it with n play with it . Hopefully my stuff for my TC4 gets here before the weekend too . Got the RC18MT fixed with a new chassis and steering setup , all i need is a new late model body (one i have was mounted and trimmed with a crooked chassis) . Anyone else gonna bring their 1/18 toys to play with ? The last layout was perfect as far as the lane width n all .

[Doxiedad]

I'd like the chance to see the Blitz in action.

[slicrick]

Tag,i'm going over to don's,today if he has a motor in stock,i'll bring my 18t late model,i believe i have one new body in stock,if you want it.
I'm bringing my gas truck too.see ya'll sunday.

[TagDragger]

Yea Rick i'll take the body if ya got it . Let me know what i owe ya for it and i'll bring it . Hopefully i can get Sunday off , if not imma have to leave early , but i'll at least come out n play for a lil bit . lol . Gotta get my RC Fix . LOL .

[TagDragger]

Blitz is on the truck on it's way here being delivered today . Got tomorrow off (last i knew last night) so it looks like imma be coming out and playing with a new toy . LOL . just wish the parts for my TC4 . Now a quick run to hobbytown for a few things and i'll be all set , well , if they have what i need which is a bit unlikely , but i'm gonna be optimistic . LOL .

[slicrick]

tag-i have one body left,i'll bring it sun.the price is $18.00,see ya'll sun.

[Doxiedad]

I'm all stoked and ready for Sun. My first time racing :) Hopefully I won't crash and burn LOL

I'm still using the stock AM traxxas crap radio and I only have the yellow crystal (27.145mhz) hopefully that won't be a problem.

[Ed Pasoquen]

I'm all stoked and ready for Sun. My first time racing :) Hopefully I won't crash and burn LOL

I'm still using the stock AM traxxas crap radio and I only have the yellow crystal (27.145mhz) hopefully that won't be a problem.

I don't think anyone esle is on 27mhz , if they are I have Radio shack crystals 7 thru 12

[slicrick]

I don't think anyone esle is on 27mhz , if they are I have Radio shack crystals 7 thru 12

i have blue in my 18t..

[Doxiedad]

I don't think anyone esle is on 27mhz , if they are I have Radio shack crystals 7 thru 12

Cool Ed. Hopefully this will be the only time I have to use the AM radio. Hopefully Sun I'll get to check out some radios and order me a 2.4ghz system.

[theycallmejam]

hey jason, dont forget those 2 bodies for me and micro, not sure if he got one yet r not, but i still need one

[mark king]

tag-i have one body left,i'll bring it sun.the price is $18.00,see ya'll sun.

cool bring your pro truck:checkered::mapit:

[ShagNasty]

hey jason, dont forget those 2 bodies for me and micro, not sure if he got one yet r not, but i still need one

i got em

[TagDragger]

the Blitz is here n ready to go . I ran the motor off of 2 "D" cells in alcohol for about 45 mins , blew it out n dry and oiled it with Marvel Mystery oil . Also put the C-hubs i picked up sat for a TC3 in my TC4 . They are 4 deg . What does that mean and is it a good or bad thing for the tight technical courses there ? Also got the 18T ready to roll , crooked body n all . LOL . Bring em if ya got em y'all . LOL .

[theycallmejam]

look at these 4x4 slashes go, theres a trple there clearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUV5UzTxeuM&feature=digest

[Doxiedad]

yeah i really like the slash 4x4. have to see if it takes off around here

[theycallmejam]

yeah i really like the slash 4x4. have to see if it takes off around here

id like to have one, but at almost 400 bucks, thats a bit much for me, but, i have seen a rolling chassis 4x4 slash for 200, no tires, just the diff, and chassis, basicly, put ur letronics and tires, n body

[Doxiedad]

id like to have one, but at almost 400 bucks, thats a bit much for me, but, i have seen a rolling chassis 4x4 slash for 200, no tires, just the diff, and chassis, basicly, put ur letronics and tires, n body

well you can sell the 2.4ghz radio that comes with it for about $65 shipped. The VXL system that comes with it usually goes for $120 shipped so it's not too bad I guess.

[Doxiedad]

Well I cleaned my Slash for first time. Only 2 things concern me, first time setting gear mesh, and I have an extra screw O.o

Other than that not too bad. I removed shocks, esc, motor, reciever box, wheels and sprayed it with simple green and brushed it clean then rinsed with water. I followed up with some WD-40 on the metal areas that might rust.

I did the paper method for setting mesh. Hopefully it's pretty fool proof. We'll have to see. Can't figure out where the little screw is supposed to go, must not be too important LOL

[Karl Kobernus]

We'll have to see. Can't figure out where the little screw is supposed to go, must not be too important LOL

Do what I do. Run the poop out of it and if something falls off, that's probably what the screw holds on.:bigsmile:

[Doxiedad]

Funny you say that. My servo saver just popped today. The spring just came right out of it. I know I put it back right. Only one bolt holds it onto the servo.

[Doxiedad]

Unless of course it's from me removing it from the servo, and leaving it attached to the steering arm while I cleaned it. Either way I need to get a couple. I picked up 2 spur and 2 pinion gears in case I mess those up.

[theycallmejam]

its always good to have a couple of extra spur gears, trust me, i know. i owe ed and chris one each. pinions too, i broke one putting it back on after cleaning my motor

[Doxiedad]

Yeah I'm working slowly on getting parts. I got em cause I pulled my motor and cleaned it after the race saturday and I had to set the gear mesh. It was my first time so I figure I'll tear it up. I do know it's louder now than it was :(

[theycallmejam]

Yeah I'm working slowly on getting parts. I got em cause I pulled my motor and cleaned it after the race saturday and I had to set the gear mesh. It was my first time so I figure I'll tear it up. I do know it's louder now than it was :(

mesh is to tight if its loud

[Doxiedad]

hmm ok I'll work on it tomorrow. Any tips on setting it other than the paper method?

[theycallmejam]

hmm ok I'll work on it tomorrow. Any tips on setting it other than the paper method?

two piece paper, till you get use to it, just a little play it all you need. i hated doing gear mess wn i started too, still dont like to do it

[Doxiedad]

two piece paper, till you get use to it, just a little play it all you need. i hated doing gear mess wn i started too, still dont like to do it

ok so use 2 pieces of paper. push the spur into the pinion and as long as I can pull them out without tearing and show good gear teeth marks I should be fine?

[theycallmejam]

ok so use 2 pieces of paper. push the spur into the pinion and as long as I can pull them out without tearing and show good gear teeth marks I should be fine?

thats rite

[theycallmejam]

hmm ok I'll work on it tomorrow. Any tips on setting it other than the paper method?

practice, you want just a little play between pinion and spur

[Doxiedad]

Cool deal I'll work on that tomorrow. Still sucks I can't play wed :(

[ShagNasty]

but you really need to check the mesh at a few spots around the spur, alot of times the spur will have low and high spots that will make you think the mesh is too tight or too loose.

[Doxiedad]

Ok I'll try that

[Doxiedad]

Did the mesh again and it's sounding better. Picked up a couple of spur and pinion gears just in case though.

[Doxiedad]

So any more thoughts of allowing brushless (open or specced) in the SC class? I drove the wife's 4x4 slash for a couple of laps it made me realize how awesome brushless is.

[Doxiedad]

So when my Slash tires wear out can I replace them with 4WD tires since the rims look better? I'm guessing for the stock class we have to stick with a stock set of tires, but can I put Blitz, SC10, or Slash 4WD on?

Thanks.

[Doxiedad]

Ok so for you guys running Slash and LiPo are you just running without a lipo cutoff? I've been doing some research and haven't been able to find any external LiPo cutoff's that work with the Traxxas XL-5.

[Ed Pasoquen]

Ok so for you guys running Slash and LiPo are you just running without a lipo cutoff? I've been doing some research and haven't been able to find any external LiPo cutoff's that work with the Traxxas XL-5.

You don't need a lipo cutoff because , stock class mains are only 7 mintues ,also you can use any STOCK wheel or tires from any SCT

[Doxiedad]

Ok good deal. I can look for deals on wheels/tires now :)

[theycallmejam]

doxie,
you coming out sunday to play? bring the mrs, she can run the 4wd, and ur buddy

andbody seen or heard from chris? is he alive?

[Doxiedad]

jam,
yeah i plan on coming out sunday to race the slash. Wife is working so she can't make it. Trying to talk my buddy into coming out. He's almost convinced to get a car. Trying to convince him to get a slash instead of a Jato 3.3 only because I know how boring it can get running a car in your yard by yourself.

[Doxiedad]

realized today that I messed up. After that practice last week I took it home and cleaned it up but forgot to spray WD-40 so now it has some surface rust on the bolts :(

Hopefully it'll be fine, I'll definately remember next time.

[theycallmejam]

jam,
yeah i plan on coming out sunday to race the slash. Wife is working so she can't make it. Trying to talk my buddy into coming out. He's almost convinced to get a car. Trying to convince him to get a slash instead of a Jato 3.3 only because I know how boring it can get running a car in your yard by yourself.

if i had another spur gear, i could put a radio in my super slash and he could run it.
may have to go get one

[Doxiedad]

Well it depends on what he has going on. His daughter's birthday party is currently scheduled for sat so he should be free Sun. If he does show up i have a pair of spur gears so it's not a problem.

Thanks :)

[TagDragger]

Yea i am still alive , barely though . Work has been hell with mandatory weekends and late nights (3am) . Gotta run a friend back up to Indiana this weekend and it is my weekend to work next weekend so be back out to play the following one hopefully .

[Doxiedad]

Good to see you're still alive. We've missed having the Blitz to bash on, although there are a couple of strikes now :D

[Doxiedad]

Question for you guys running an AMB transponder in your slashes do you just have a second transponder for your other classes or do you open the rx box and pull it out? Just thinking about how close some of the heats are and such.

[xeonrage]

Question for you guys running an AMB transponder in your slashes do you just have a second transponder for your other classes or do you open the rx box and pull it out? Just thinking about how close some of the heats are and such.

no reason to put the transponder in the rx box, i just zip tie it to the front shock tower..

but yes, i'd still run multiple transponders.. that one time you forget to switch will be your last :)

[Doxiedad]

no reason to put the transponder in the rx box, i just zip tie it to the front shock tower..

but yes, i'd still run multiple transponders.. that one time you forget to switch will be your last :)

Yeah I meant the transponder has to be powered by the Rx right? Didn't mean to put the whole transponder in the box.

Guess when I get my T4 running I'll worry more about it. Already have a hole drilled in the Slash for the house transponder.

[xeonrage]

just get a 3" servo extender cable for a couple of bucks and run it from the recv to just outside the waterproof box. then anytime you need to take the transponder off, you don't need to open the box

[Doxiedad]

ah I like that :guzzleit:

Still zip tie it to front shock tower and cut the zip ties to move from truck to truck?

Thanks.

[ShagNasty]

or use velcro to hold it to the chassis

[Doxiedad]

I like that idea too. Where's a good place to get some velcro locally? Or is it best to order it online when I get my servo extension.

[theycallmejam]

or use velcro to hold it to the chassis

or super velcro from radio shack, i think its really called hook and loop. if they have clear, or white, get it. i like the clear better than the black

[Doxiedad]

Awesome, though I think the radio shack in moncks corner is closing down. Is that one on Ashley Phosphate still open?

[Codetoad]

Looking forward to getting into some SC racing! How many battery packs do you guys suggest I get? I've only got the one the Slash came with at the moment.

Anything else I 'ought to buy before hand?

I figure I'll come practice/watch when the new track is ready, but if I need to order anything ahead of time I might as well.

[Ed Pasoquen]

Looking forward to getting into some SC racing! How many battery packs do you guys suggest I get? I've only got the one the Slash came with at the moment.

Anything else I 'ought to buy before hand?

I figure I'll come practice/watch when the new track is ready, but if I need to order anything ahead of time I might as well.

2 or 3 good packs will do just fine being that heats are 5 mins and mains are 7 mins long.

[Codetoad]

Cool, thanks. I'm assuming the 7 cell NiMh are the ticket for the stock class. Seems like some decent 3300 mah packs should do just fine for a 7 minute main.

[xeonrage]

Cool, thanks. I'm assuming the 7 cell NiMh are the ticket for the stock class. Seems like some decent 3300 mah packs should do just fine for a 7 minute main.

2s lipo are better.. 7 cell if you have to

[Doxiedad]

The only thing I've had break on my slash so far was the rear stub axle carrier and a servo saver (my fault, didn't tighten it up enough)

So I've got spares of them as well as a couple of spare spurs and pinions.

[Codetoad]

Thanks for the help guys. I didn't realize 2s lipos were legit for the stock class, good to know!

[xeonrage]

Thanks for the help guys. I didn't realize 2s lipos were legit for the stock class, good to know!

they're pretty much standard anywhere i've been or seen. Throw a nimh in for warmup/practice and a lipo for the race (unless you get a cutoff)

[Ed Pasoquen]

To stay in line with other tracks I will allow any manufacters SCT tires ( 2.2" x 3.0" )

[Doxiedad]

just get a 3" servo extender cable for a couple of bucks and run it from the recv to just outside the waterproof box. then anytime you need to take the transponder off, you don't need to open the box

would this one work? Servo Extension (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXL287&P=ML)

Don't know if the Futaba J is standard.

[xeonrage]

It'll work.. I just bought a couple more of these:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/20894/n/JR-3-Servo-Extention

[theycallmejam]

To stay in line with other tracks I will allow any manufacters SCT tires ( 2.2" x 3.0" )

does tht mean after market too, or just the mfg tires

[Doxiedad]

does tht mean after market too, or just the mfg tires

Pretty sure it's just rtr tires

[mkbbadd]

I'm not sure but at outlaw it was any sct tire that where for sct , some ran calibers and bowtie?:hmmm:

[Doxiedad]

Was that a stock class or a mod class?

[xeonrage]

There's only one track I know of that allows ONLY stock rtr times in the stock class.. and they are WAY behind the times :(

[Ed Pasoquen]

does tht mean after market too, or just the mfg tires

ANY tire made ONLY for the SCT

[sluggoman]

A good friend of mine wants to get into racing. I suggested the Slash to start. What do you guys recommend for the initial package to buy, and what can he upgrade?

[xeonrage]

A good friend of mine wants to get into racing. I suggested the Slash to start. What do you guys recommend for the initial package to buy, and what can he upgrade?

rpm rear bumper mount first! .. then aluminum shock caps, other than that, maybe upgrade the arms to rpm, knuckles (front break all the time on bad landings)

[mkbbadd]

i dont thinks changing arms is legal, the drivetrain is to be stock

[Doxiedad]

Yeah my understanding was that everything had to be stock. But you can mix manufacturers. For example you can have a slash with Blitz esc/motor and SC10 wheels if you want. Other than that you can change the radio and use 2s Lipo's. The idea being to keep it a stock spec affordable class. Maybe in the future if there is enough interest there will be a mod SC class, but I'm not in charge of anything so what do i know :watersprinkler:

[xeonrage]

i dont thinks changing arms is legal, the drivetrain is to be stock

That maybe for Moncks.. most others its fine.. RPM parts are generally ok.. as opposed to aluminum being a nono

[mark king]

what part of stock parts don,t they get. box stock parts is stock parts. not rpm parts.

[mkbbadd]

:dizzy:thats the reason i bought one is because of the fact they are all the same and that means box stock. the whole idea is not to have to spend a fortune on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[ShagNasty]

box stock parts, only additions allowed is aluminum shock caps for slash, any Short Course specific 2.2"/3.0" tires and wheels, any Short Course Specific bodies, any stock parts off of any manufacturers RTR Short Course Truck as long as no modification is needed to fit it. Only spring retainers that come in the kit may be used, no extras, no internal shock mods such as limiters other than fluids. So tracks are allowing Associated SC10 to use front chassis brace only due to stock chassis being so weak, there is no performance advantage, only a durability advantage, as with the aluminum slash shock caps.

[ShagNasty]

also, i think the stock RTR Associated SC10 motor should be outlawed, it is the only open end bell motor and would be alot hard to keep people from modding due to easy to turn the comm, change brushes, brush springs, and the newest ones are ball bearing supported. I have one of these, and in stock un modded good condition they are only slightly faster than a good slash motor, pull a little harder out of corners, and dont have the rpm of the strike motor.

[Ed Pasoquen]

I Do agree with Shag -closed endbells should be the only motor allowed in stock class .Here is a copy of rules that they used at PNB and everyone pretty much go by this:

Nitro Blast 2WD Stock Short Course Truck Rules
This class is for all 2WD Ready-To-Run Short Course Trucks. All manufacturers are welcome in this class, with the following restrictions:
Chassis:
- The chassis must remain in stock form. No aftermarket chassis may be used.
Body:
- The body used must be a full-fender truck body that is specifically made for short course trucks.
- The body must completely cover the tires when viewed from above.
- No add-on spoilers or wings allowed.
Tires and Wheels:
- All tires and wheels must be made specifically for short course trucks.
- Wheel Inner Bead Max Diameter……………………….. 3.0 in / 76.20mm
- Wheel Outer Bead Max Diameter………………………. 2.2 in / 55.88mm
- Wheel Bead Width Max………………………………… 1.55 in / 39.37mm
- Wheel Width Max………………………………………. 1.65 in / 41.91mm
- Tire Maximum Width…(mounted)...…………………… 1.85 in / 46.99mm
- Tire Diameter Min…(mounted)...………………………. 4.20 in / 106.68mm
- Tire Tread……………………………………………….. Treaded, NO Cut/Custom
Driveline:
- Gear or Ball differentials allowed.
- Any pinion or spur that fits the vehicle without modification may be used.
Suspension:
All suspension parts must remain stock, with the following exceptions:
- Traxxas Slash and other SCT brands that have plastic shocks are allowed to use OEM (original equipment manufacturer) aluminum bodies*. Pro-line or any other after-market brand upgrade is not allowed. However, ANY brand aluminum cap can be used as long as springs remain OEM. *No Big Bores allowed.
- Any shocks from any RTR kit may be used on another brand of RTR kit, so long as the suspension arms do not have to be modified in any way.
- Springs must remain stock.

Motor:
- Only motors that come with the Ready-To-Run kits will be allowed.
- A motor from a different brand of RTR SCT may be used (Example: A Traxxas 12T Titan may be used on an Associated SC10, etc)
- The Electronic Speed Control used must be one that comes included with a Ready-To-Run Short Course Truck. It may be from a different manufacturer.
- No brushless motors may be used.
- Examples of legal motors for this class include the 12T Titan (Traxxas), 15T Firebolt (HPI), Reedy 17T (Associated), 12T 550 Losi motor.
Batteries:
- 2S 7.4v LiPo packs (no capacity limit) and 7.2v 6-cell NiMH packs (no capacity limit) are allowed.
- ** The battery mount on the vehicle may be modified in any way to accommodate for a faster battery swap.
Weight:
- All trucks must weigh no less than 4.75 pounds race-ready.

Parts from one brand of Ready-To-Run kit may be used on another brand, but the part must be available on a Ready-To-Run kit. (Example – shocks from a Losi kit being used on an HPI, etc).

Any issues not addressed in these rules may be discussed with the race directors. All decisions by the race directors are final.

REVISED: January 5th, 2010

[Codetoad]

Really helpful post, thanks!

The Slash comes with a 7 cell pack, that's not cool for the stock class?

[mark king]

Really helpful post, thanks!

The Slash comes with a 7 cell pack, that's not cool for the stock class?

yeap but it is a stock part.

[Doxiedad]

The 7 cell nimh has been legal. I've been running the traxxas 7 cell battery and it's no advantage. At the very beginning I'm a little faster, but it falls on it's face before the end.

[mark king]

The 7 cell nimh has been legal.

thats right a s t o c k p a r t that is legal......

[Codetoad]

thats right a s t o c k p a r t that is legal......

Reason I asked was this:

- 2S 7.4v LiPo packs (no capacity limit) and 7.2v 6-cell NiMH packs (no capacity limit) are allowed.

Thanks for clearing it up, just wanted to be sure.

[mark king]

Reason I asked was this:


Thanks for clearing it up, just wanted to be sure.

it is 6 or 7 .but no moor then 7 . or 7.4 lipo.

[Doxiedad]

Anyone here good at painting bodies? I tried painting a body for the wifes slash and I have a feeling it's not going to come out very good. Might just go ahead and get someone to paint one for her since I can't get her the paint scheme she wants anyway. it would be on a proline baja bug body.

[Doxiedad]

Came out better than I expected. A couple of run spots. Problem is it was a metallic color shift paint, so I didn't read the can that said the color won't come out until you back it with black. A little too much paint and some runs :(

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4565901481_bf4a1cec58.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/4566527160_057f28bc2f.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4566524656_e1075dc67e.jpg

I'll know better next time. Now I gotta try my hand at trimming it out :dizzy:

[TagDragger]

Didn't turn out too bad . Just gotta remember keep the nozzle about 12 to 16 inches away and light coats . It is better to have 10 light coats than 3 heavy . Just a couple tips that were given to me years ago when i got started in RC . Oh yea , also if you use more than one color , either spray the darkest firsr , or spray the lighter color first but back it with white or silver . White is recommended for florescents and silver is recommended for candies and transparents .

[Doxiedad]

other than the couple of spots where it ran I'm happy with it. Next time will be much better :)

[Doxiedad]

Looks like the stock spec SC class will be evolving soon

SC10 Brushless RTR (http://67.199.85.166/main/productdetails.php?text=7043)

Press release (http://aedownloads.com/press/in_051110_sc10-rtr-brushless.pdf)

[Doxiedad]

So who's interested in 4x4 SC class? As far as I know there is the Slash 4x4, Ofna Hyper 10 S/C, and the Jammin SCRT

[Codetoad]

So who's interested in 4x4 SC class? As far as I know there is the Slash 4x4, Ofna Hyper 10 S/C, and the Jammin SCRT

I don't have one now, but I think I'd get one if there were enough to race.

[Doxiedad]

I don't have one now, but I think I'd get one if there were enough to race.

Pretty sure we only need 3 to have a class.

[Ed Pasoquen]

The next SCT winner !!! Grady's son

[Doxiedad]

Give him a couple of years and he'll take all of us. Well at least me anyways :football:

[Ed Pasoquen]

Check this out , I think I'm getting one of these kit for my MF-2
http://www.exotekracing.com/EXOTEK_NEWS/Entries/2010/5/31_SCX-T.html

[coryf]

I am about to pull the trigger on a SC truck.

Just to make sure what is legal for our local SC class. Does it have to be a RTR type roller? Or like the national SC class any SC chassis with any option part from any manufacturer is allowed? (my T4 is a FT model, would end up with a SC10 very similiar to the new FT version out soon) Also tires are free as long as they are SC? Motor and ESC: I believe a 27t brushed or 17.5 brushless is allowed? or does it have to be a stock titan slash motor?

I would like to order up some parts to convert my T4 so if anyone here knows what we can run please post it up so I can get the right parts. :)

[Doxiedad]

We have been running a stock spec. You can mix and match but it has to be from a stock rtr SC truck. Also any tires that fit the 2.2/3.0 SC tire are allowed. Stock closed end bell brushed motors.

[theycallmejam]

Check this out , I think I'm getting one of these kit for my MF-2
http://www.exotekracing.com/EXOTEK_NEWS/Entries/2010/5/31_SCX-T.html

i want one of these

[Doxiedad]

Yup that kit will make a bad SC truck. What Losi should have made instead of the strike. My poor lil slash won't have a chance :lol-floor:

[Doxiedad]

Sooo any chance I'll be able to run this (http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/178247/n/Team-Associated-SC10-110-RTR-Brushless-Electric-2WD-Short-Course-Race-Truck-Pro-Comp)?

:googles:

[Ed Pasoquen]

Sooo any chance I'll be able to run this (http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/178247/n/Team-Associated-SC10-110-RTR-Brushless-Electric-2WD-Short-Course-Race-Truck-Pro-Comp)?

:googles:

As of this weekend I will allow any stock SCT motor or 17,5 brushless motors in the stock SCT class, as per ROAR rules. I feel it would be cheeper in the long run.

[Codetoad]

Sweet! Glad my stock motor lasted. Now I'll sort of be looking forward to when it goes :)

So 17.5 brushless is the same as 3300kv or lower? I never really understood the brushless ratings other than kv.

[coryf]

As of this weekend I will allow any stock SCT motor or 17,5 brushless motors in the stock SCT class, as per ROAR rules. I feel it would be cheeper in the long run.

Cool. I like the idea of the 17.5t bRushless. How about chassis? Will the equivalent of a factory team sc10 be allowed?

[Doxiedad]

Sweet! Glad my stock motor lasted. Now I'll sort of be looking forward to when it goes :)

So 17.5 brushless is the same as 3300kv or lower? I never really understood the brushless ratings other than kv.

According to this Novak chart it would be 2200 kv Novak Chart (http://www.teamnovak.com/products/brushless/motor_spec_chart.htm)

[Doxiedad]

Cool. I like the idea of the 17.5t bRushless. How about chassis? Will the equivalent of a factory team sc10 be allowed?

Maybe for a mod class, but seems like a bit much for FT SC10, Blitz ESE or Kyosho Ultima SC-R to be running with stock chassis trucks.

[Doxiedad]

As of this weekend I will allow any stock SCT motor or 17,5 brushless motors in the stock SCT class, as per ROAR rules. I feel it would be cheeper in the long run.

Ok so for dummies like me that means I could get that SC10 with the 3300kv motor since it's a stock SCT motor, or put a 17.5T brushless in a regular SC10/Blitz/Ultima/Slash right?

[Ed Pasoquen]

Ok so for dummies like me that means I could get that SC10 with the 3300kv motor since it's a stock SCT motor, or put a 17.5T brushless in a regular SC10/Blitz/Ultima/Slash right?

I guess ROAR didn't plan on any of the companies putting a 3300kv (10.5t) in a RTR truck, the 17.5t is rated@ 2200kv

[Doxiedad]

I guess ROAR didn't plan on any of the companies putting a 3300kv (10.5t) in a RTR truck, the 17.5t is rated@ 2200kv

That's what i was thinking. Not trying to stir stuff up, just want to make sure when I upgrade I can still race :googles:

[Ed Pasoquen]

That's what i was thinking. Not trying to stir stuff up, just want to make sure when I upgrade I can still race :googles:

You can put the 17.5t in any stock SCT, just tring to keep a level playing field without breaking the bank.

[Doxiedad]

You can put the 17.5t in any stock SCT

Cool, but If i decide to go with the SC10 will I have to sell the 3300kv and put a 17.5t in?

[theycallmejam]

Cool, but If i decide to go with the SC10 will I have to sell the 3300kv and put a 17.5t in?

were prolly gonna have to get a list of the kv's as to 10.5, 17.5 and 13.5 ect ect
anybody seen one anywhere?

[Doxiedad]

According to this Novak chart it would be 2200 kv Novak Chart (http://www.teamnovak.com/products/brushless/motor_spec_chart.htm)

Jam this is the only one I could find easily

[ShagNasty]

yea, each motor manufacturer really dont have a standard spec to follow, each has its own performance rating, if you are going to set a brushless motor limit then you need to have a kv range to allow. Some examples:

Tekin motor specs:
Redline Sensored 10.5t 4,500kv
Redline Sensored 13.5t 3,500kv
Redline Sensored 17.5t 2,500kv
Redline Sensored 21.5t 2,100kv

Losi motor specs:
Xcelorin Sensored 10.5t 3080kv
Xcelorin Sensored 13.5t 2360kv
Xcelorin Sensored 17.5t 1820kv

Novak motor specs:
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 10.5t 4,200kv
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 13.5t 3,300kv
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 17.5t 2,200kv
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 21.5t 1,800kv

[Ed Pasoquen]

CORR - SCT racing video from the AMS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCn3wEETbLA

[jared52]

CORR - SCT racing video from the AMS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCn3wEETbLA

Wow, that guy was AWESOME!! he must have won or something! :p

haha, actually I didn't do all that well or even make the A-main. :rolleyes:

You have to love my dad telling me how to drive though.

[marcuswelch]

Wow, that guy was AWESOME!! he must have won or something! :p

haha, actually I didn't do all that well or even make the A-main. :rolleyes:

You have to love my dad telling me how to drive though.

u didnt look to bad there was one section that was giving u the devel

[Codetoad]

yea, each motor manufacturer really dont have a standard spec to follow, each has its own performance rating, if you are going to set a brushless motor limit then you need to have a kv range to allow. Some examples:

Tekin motor specs:
Redline Sensored 10.5t 4,500kv
Redline Sensored 13.5t 3,500kv
Redline Sensored 17.5t 2,500kv
Redline Sensored 21.5t 2,100kv

Losi motor specs:
Xcelorin Sensored 10.5t 3080kv
Xcelorin Sensored 13.5t 2360kv
Xcelorin Sensored 17.5t 1820kv

Novak motor specs:
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 10.5t 4,200kv
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 13.5t 3,300kv
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 17.5t 2,200kv
BALLISTIC SPEC/SS 21.5t 1,800kv


Here is the official list of approved Stock/17.5 Spec brushless motors from ROAR:
http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/brushlessmotors.php

[mkbbadd]

:badbad:Here is the official list of approved Stock/17.5 Spec brushless motors from ROAR:
http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/brushlessmotors.php

That doesnt show sct rules that is general rules and that leaves me in the same boat,because I bought mine to race bone stock and that is what drawed me in and to have a cheap form of racing , but all that has went out the window.I guess I will stay with truggy at lest we are all on the same page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Codetoad]

Eh, from what I'm reading, the performance difference between the Titan 12t vs the 2200kv brushless setups is nominal. To me it's great to have the option to go brushless so I don't have to hastle with break in magic and a Titan burning up at 20something bucks a pop. My 0.02

[Outkast187]

exactly,the titan is not any slower than 17.5 motors....the titan is actually faster. A bone stock truck can clean house, I promise you.

[theycallmejam]

:badbad:

That doesnt show sct rules that is general rules and that leaves me in the same boat,because I bought mine to race bone stock and that is what drawed me in and to have a cheap form of racing , but all that has went out the window.I guess I will stay with truggy at lest we are all on the same page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know what you mean, i ran a 175 today, jasons striker motor, and mitchells sc10 were faster than me. i almost put in my blitz motor, but stayed with the 17.5, now its the after market tires i have the prob with, to keep cost down, but the aftermarket tires are alot better then stock sct

[Codetoad]

i know what you mean, i ran a 175 today, jasons striker motor, and mitchells sc10 were faster than me. i almost put in my blitz motor, but stayed with the 17.5, now its the after market tires i have the prob with, to keep cost down, but the aftermarket tires are alot better then stock sct

Yeah, it's a shame the SC10 tires don't fit the Slash, I didn't realize that. After watching you and Mark with the Pro-Line tires last time, I had to give it a shot and it was a pretty good difference. A lot more fun too.

The up-side cost wise is that they seemed to wear very little. I got the medium compound and they are still in great shape.

[theycallmejam]

Yeah, it's a shame the SC10 tires don't fit the Slash, I didn't realize that. After watching you and Mark with the Pro-Line tires last time, I had to give it a shot and it was a pretty good difference. A lot more fun too.

The up-side cost wise is that they seemed to wear very little. I got the medium compound and they are still in great shape.

the set i borrowed from ed on the mem race had some wear on them from when he ran them in aiken, just the rears tho, the fronts were good. i borrowed them for the main today, and they were still as good. i do need some tires, but thats were the cost comes into play, prolly gonna have my hours cut some. even my original stock tires need one set replaced cuz of the onroad

[Doxiedad]

That's why I use my originals for onroad and got another coupla sets for offroad. Got some of the S1 traxxas tires and some blitz tires.

[marcuswelch]

That's why I use my originals for onroad and got another coupla sets for offroad. Got some of the S1 traxxas tires and some blitz tires.

how do the s1 traxxas tires work

[ShagNasty]

they had open SCT at the GCS race this weekend. Pretty much any SCT chassis, no 1/8 conversions, must fit under SCT body, 4wd or 2wd, and motor/esc, 7.4v, sct tires/wheels only..... wow, made me want to build one, they were pretty sick, and fast

[marcuswelch]

they had open SCT at the GCS race this weekend. Pretty much any SCT chassis, no 1/8 conversions, must fit under SCT body, 4wd or 2wd, and motor/esc, 7.4v, sct tires/wheels only..... wow, made me want to build one, they were pretty sick, and fast

they putting 2wd and 4wd in the same race or seperate

[Codetoad]

That would be sweet! I really like stock SC for on-road because the track is small and the racing is tight, but they feel sort of lost on the dirt track.

[Doxiedad]

how do the s1 traxxas tires work
A little better than the old stock slash tires, but nothing special that I could tell anyways. Of course I'm not the best driver LOL

[Doxiedad]

they putting 2wd and 4wd in the same race or seperate

I'd hope seperate. I can't imagine a 2wd having a chance against a 4wd. I don't know about open but I'd love to see some 4wd SC racing here :)

[ShagNasty]

they run 2wd and 4wd together in open, the 2wd were actually holding their own, but most were 4wd

[marcuswelch]

they run 2wd and 4wd together in open, the 2wd were actually holding their own, but most were 4wd

thats intereting if they are goin to do it that way they should do it loike the real ones and give the 2wd guys a half a lap if not a hole lap head start then make the 4wd people actually drive the trucks lol... that would be interesting to see... just my 2 cents

[Codetoad]

The only thing stopping me from getting a 4x4 SC truck is the fact that we don't race them.

If that were to change, I'd pretty sure I'd hop on board.

[Doxiedad]

The only thing stopping me from getting a 4x4 SC truck is the fact that we don't race them.

If that were to change, I'd pretty sure I'd hop on board.

Same here. My buggy keeps frustrating me while the slash hasn't been any trouble.

[Doxiedad]

What SC tires have been working on our track? Trying to get a feel for what I'll get when it's time. I've read a lot about the Proline Calibers and Holeshots doing well. Just wanted to know what other people have experienced at our track.

[Codetoad]

I have the medium compound calibers and they seem pretty good.

[theycallmejam]

anybody goin to hobby clown or flight line tomm? I need some super glue if anybody goes, i will pay ya back sat.

[theycallmejam]

The only thing stopping me from getting a 4x4 SC truck is the fact that we don't race them.

If that were to change, I'd pretty sure I'd hop on board.

you better get one, unless james cant race the mrs truck

[theycallmejam]

anybody goin to hobby clown or flight line tomm? I need some super glue if anybody goes, i will pay ya back sat.

never mind, i got some at flight line. i do need a or some bladders for the shocks

[Codetoad]

you better get one, unless james cant race the mrs truck

Still thinking about it. If enough people got them going it'd be a lot of fun, but if not a touring car may be neat too.

[theycallmejam]

Still thinking about it. If enough people got them going it'd be a lot of fun, but if not a touring car may be neat too.

i think they would be as fun as the slash and touring car

[Doxiedad]

you better get one, unless james cant race the mrs truck

I should be able to race it, worse case if I break it I'll have to fix it or get her a slash of her own.

[Doxiedad]

i think they would be as fun as the slash and touring car

I really had fun the couple of times I brought mine out and played on the track. So much in fact that I'd quit running 2wd slash offroad and stick to 4x4!!

[Ed Pasoquen]

Here is ROAR's SCT rules:
8.10.12 1/10th Short Course Truck
8.10.12.1 Dimensional Specifications:
Item Limit Specification
Wheel base Minimum 320mm (12.59 in) Maximum 335mm (13.19 in)
Overall Length Minimum 540mm (21.25 in) Maximum 568mm (22.36 in)
Overall Width Minimum 290mm (11.42 in) Maximum 296mm (11.65 in)
Weight Minimum 2098 gr (74 oz)
Vehicle Height Overall Minimum 199mm (7.835 in)
Wheel bead Inner Maximum 76.20mm (3.0 in)
diameter Outer Maximum 55.88mm (2.2 in)
Wheel bead width Maximum 39.37mm (1.55 in)
Wheels
Wheel width Maximum 41.91mm (1.65 in)
Tires Diameter mounted
Tire Width (Mounted)
Minimum
Maximum
106.68 (4.20 in)
46.99mm (1.85 in)
8.10.12.2 Motor 17.5 turn brushless or 27 turn brushed.
8.10.12.3 2 wheel rear drive with geared or ball differential only.
8.10.12.4 No tire tread cutting, bald tires or custom cut tires allowed.
8.10.12.5 Body Specifications:
8.10.12.5.1 Full fender truck body. Body must completely cover tires when viewed from above.
8.10.12.5.2 Windshield minimum setback centerline front of body to begin windshield. See
diagram 1.
8.10.12.5.3 Cab roof minimum width and depth. See Diagram 2.
8.10.12.5.4 Cab minimum height and depth. See Diagram 3.
8.10.12.5.5 Cab Setback: Minimum setback is measured from a point equal to the Front
(centerline) of the body to the beginning of the windshield/lower rock guard.
8.10.12.5.6 Cab Profile: Minimum depth of the cab is measured from the beginning point
(centerline) of the windshield/lower rock guard to the rear reference point of the cab
8.10.12.5.7 Roof Panel: Minimum width is measured from outer most points of the roof section to
the upper side window reference line depth of the roof panel is measured (centerline)
from
8.10.12.5.8 No add on or integrated spoilers/wings allowed.
Diagram 1 Diagram 2 Diagram 3
8.10.12.6 Tire Mounted: Minimum Diameter of the tire (mounted) is established to limit
extremely low profile designs. The target dimension (new tire) is established at 4.30
Inches. To compensate for wear, molding tolerances, degradation of foam inserts, the
pre- race minimum allowable diameter of a mounted tire is 4.20 inches. Tracks and
Promoters are encouraged to select a “Stated” tire that works best for their particular
location.
8.10.12.7 Height: Minimum Overall Height is measured with vehicle at Static Stance in ready to
race condition
70
8.10.12.8 Race vehicles must have front and rear bumpers. Made from non Metal
material nor contain sharp edges.
8.10.12.8.1 Front bumper must be minimum 171.45mm (6.750 inch) in width. Front Bumper
can be no wider than the inner sidewall of the front tire when straight

[theycallmejam]

thanks ed, i looked, but never saw them. i dont like the ball diff rule

[Doxiedad]

Ok, so are we trying to get 4x4 SC running? I'm not sure ROAR has rules on that yet.

[theycallmejam]

Ok, so are we trying to get 4x4 SC running? I'm not sure ROAR has rules on that yet.

give em time, there wll be.

[Ed Pasoquen]

give em time, there wll be.

4x4 sct would be good on a road course also:D

[Doxiedad]

4x4 sct would be good on a road course also:D

oh yeah, I've played with mine once or twice and it's fun onroad too :bigsmile::bigsmile:

[theycallmejam]

oh yeah, I've played with mine once or twice and it's fun onroad too :bigsmile::bigsmile:

im lookin forward to that

[Doxiedad]

im lookin forward to that

You find a 4x4 SC?

[jrsuperfrog]

he's found a few... hes just too cheep to get it

[Codetoad]

Was getting tired of the stock body paint scheme, so I took a crack at my own.

Nothing amazing, but I think it came out pretty good for spray-cans!

http://uploadimg.toadpool.com/forum/slash_body.jpg

[Doxiedad]

Was getting tired of the stock body paint scheme, so I took a crack at my own.

Nothing amazing, but I think it came out pretty good for spray-cans!

http://uploadimg.toadpool.com/forum/slash_body.jpg

That's really sharp. I would have gone with different colors but the technique is very good.

[Codetoad]

Thanks! Light blue and red, that's my color scheme :)

[Doxiedad]

I need to come up with a color scheme one day, I figure just look for the slash/buggy that's fast in the straights and slow in the corners and you'll find me :beatme: LOL

[ShagNasty]

not sure how accurate this is, but I have heard alot of rumors of Losi working on a complete new full lineup of 1/10 race vehicles for this fall. I also know that Casey Peck had converted a Losi Ten-T to electric and to a short course truck for 4wd class...... so only time will tell


http://vimeo.com/13410487

http://vimeo.com/13410487

[jared52]

http://www.rc-car.com/index.php/site/article/364/

[Doxiedad]

Looks very promising. Hopefully it'll come out soon.

[theycallmejam]

no racing for me. i got a work this sat. from 7 till 3 or 4, may come out there after

[Doxiedad]

Anyone have an Idea why nitro short course isn't more popular around here? I noticed traxxas released an updated Slayer and it got me thinking Slayer 4x4 Pro (http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/5907slayer/trx_5907slayer.htm)

[theycallmejam]

this is a grooved track, and a true sc track, except one jump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMl9ewuJfec&feature=channel

[Doxiedad]

this is a grooved track, and a true sc track, except one jump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMl9ewuJfec&feature=channel

Wow, yeah I don't think I've ever seen ours look like that. (Not that I've got a whole lot of experience)

[Doxiedad]

Well got a new toy coming. Just ordered a Kyosho Ultima SC
Amainhobbies has them on sale for $159.99, plus $12.50 off that.
Will still suck but at least I'll do it in a new truck.

On a side note, does anyone have a traxxas brushless vxl3 system out of a slash 4x4 or such for sale? Wanting it for my slash so I can bash with it.

[theycallmejam]

Well got a new toy coming. Just ordered a Kyosho Ultima SC
Amainhobbies has them on sale for $159.99, plus $12.50 off that.
Will still suck but at least I'll do it in a new truck.

On a side note, does anyone have a traxxas brushless vxl3 system out of a slash 4x4 or such for sale? Wanting it for my slash so I can bash with it.

i wanna see that when you get it

[Doxiedad]

i wanna see that when you get it

Yeah man when i get it I'll be bringing it out to play. Just gotta get someone to hook me up and put a deans on the ESC

[Bamaengineer]

Well got a new toy coming. Just ordered a Kyosho Ultima SC
Amainhobbies has them on sale for $159.99, plus $12.50 off that.
Will still suck but at least I'll do it in a new truck.

On a side note, does anyone have a traxxas brushless vxl3 system out of a slash 4x4 or such for sale? Wanting it for my slash so I can bash with it.

can't beat that price for sure

[theycallmejam]

Yeah man when i get it I'll be bringing it out to play. Just gotta get someone to hook me up and put a deans on the ESC

i got the un, if you got the deans

[Doxiedad]

i got the un, if you got the deans

Yeah I gotta get me a couple I guess. Does Hobbytown carry them? Shoulda ordered it with truck I guess.

[TagDragger]

I got a boat load of Deans plugs , i'll try to make it out before everything starts n give ya a few .

[Doxiedad]

Ok so I cancelled my Ultima SC order, so don't be looking for it. I haven't been racing enough to justify a new truck, hell I can't remember the last time I was able to make it out there. That plus I keep seeing that prototype Losi 4x4 SC based on the Ten-T and kinda want that.

So just my trusty old Slash for now.

Sorry to dissapoint you Jam LOL

[theycallmejam]

Ok so I cancelled my Ultima SC order, so don't be looking for it. I haven't been racing enough to justify a new truck, hell I can't remember the last time I was able to make it out there. That plus I keep seeing that prototype Losi 4x4 SC based on the Ten-T and kinda want that.

So just my trusty old Slash for now.

Sorry to dissapoint you Jam LOL

theres always that losi 4x4

[Doxiedad]

Here's a vid of the Slash 4x4 dying
Slash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO_wH7kaOoo)

[Doxiedad]

Here's a vid of the Slash 4x4 dying
Slash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO_wH7kaOoo)

And here's the rest

Doxiedad videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/sithely?feature=mhum#p/u)

[jrsuperfrog]

thats sum cool video... i need to start bringin my camera

[Doxiedad]

yeah just got that camera too. Best Buy had the Flip Ultra HD on sale for $150 so I got one.
Unfortunately the videos are so short cause my wife had to keep chasing down my neice and nephew who wanted to go roaming.

[TagDragger]

Would this be legal in the SC class now ? Just curious , i am thinking of getting one if it is . LOL . That and maybe a 4wd SCT too .
http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/104558/

[Doxiedad]

Would this be legal in the SC class now ? Just curious , i am thinking of getting one if it is . LOL . That and maybe a 4wd SCT too .
http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/104558/

I dunno, I know one guys runs a SC10 that was converted from a Factory Team T4 (which basically makes it a FT SC10, and a couple that were talking about running the conversion kit from a Losi XXXT-CR so I'd think that the Blitz ESE or even the FTSC10 would be legal, as long as 17.5T brushless.

[TagDragger]

I might have to sell a few things and pick it up . LOL .

[Bamaengineer]

Would this be legal in the SC class now ? Just curious , i am thinking of getting one if it is . LOL . That and maybe a 4wd SCT too .
http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/104558/

So can we run kits in the SCT class? I enjoy building kits, then I know how to work on them. Would I have to get the ESC that comes with the RTR, or can you run a Tekin or MMP and set the mode to sensorless? I guess this would open up the whole debate on what's "stock"....

[TagDragger]

I guess as long as it is a SCT and the motor is what it oughta be and the tires are too it's legal ?

[theycallmejam]

So can we run kits in the SCT class? I enjoy building kits, then I know how to work on them. Would I have to get the ESC that comes with the RTR, or can you run a Tekin or MMP and set the mode to sensorless? I guess this would open up the whole debate on what's "stock"....

depending on where you race a sct, you mite wanna keep a rtr speedo and motor on hand, some places run box stock, and some 17.5

[Doxiedad]

depending on where you race a sct, you mite wanna keep a rtr speedo and motor on hand, some places run box stock, and some 17.5

What about kit (Blitz ESE, FT SC10, Ultima SC-R) vs RTR? Or even converted pro trucks?

[theycallmejam]

What about kit (Blitz ESE, FT SC10, Ultima SC-R) vs RTR? Or even converted pro trucks?

kits i dont is a prob, converted trucks, not sure about. there is nothning about it in the rules, as of now

[Doxiedad]

kits i dont is a prob, converted trucks, not sure about. there is nothning about it in the rules, as of now

Well since I only race at MCR for now that's what I'm mostly concerned with.

[Bamaengineer]

depending on where you race a sct, you mite wanna keep a rtr speedo and motor on hand, some places run box stock, and some 17.5

any future racing would be at MCR, that's why I've been trying to get a feel for what ya'll have. Right now all I have is a bunch of random stuff, none of which is box stock.

[TagDragger]

I might get the conversion kit like Ed did and swap my pro truck over , or sell it off . I dunno yet .

[slicrick]

Ed,about what time are you going to start the races sat.
I'm planning on making the trip.
See ya'll sat.:raceme:

[Doxiedad]

Ed,about what time are you going to start the races sat.
I'm planning on making the trip.
See ya'll sat.:raceme:

I think he said noon on Saturday

[Ed Pasoquen]

Have you all seen this ???
http://www.rcsoutheast.com/showthread.php?t=178

[Doxiedad]

Some serious driving skills there!!!!

[slicrick]

I think he said noon on Saturday

Tks doxiedad.
Ed,if its starting earlier,please let me know..

[Doxiedad]

Think my esc is dying on my Slash, either that or something wrong with the spekky. Went to track last week to practice, it went forward fine, but did not want to go in reverse. Got progressively worse.

Any suggestions on troubleshooting? Or should I just learn to drive better so I don't need reverse?

[Doxiedad]

Decided to open up my diff today. Whatever grease was in there was liquid. Cleaned it up and packed it with Mobil 1 Synthetic grease. Also regreased the tranny while it was open. Hopefully it'll help.

[theycallmejam]

Decided to open up my diff today. Whatever grease was in there was liquid. Cleaned it up and packed it with Mobil 1 Synthetic grease. Also regreased the tranny while it was open. Hopefully it'll help.

is that grease thick? if not, i bet there is a pool of grease under your truck now

[Doxiedad]

is that grease thick? if not, i bet there is a pool of grease under your truck now

I guess so, it's this stuff, but in a 1 pound tub Mobil 1
(http://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english/motoroil/other_products/mobil_1_synthetic_grease.aspx)

[Doxiedad]

Hmm looks like another contender, what they should have done instead of the strike

XXX-SCT (http://www.losi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB0106)

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Gallery/LOSB0106BD_a4.jpg

[LITTLEA]

hmm looks like another contender, what they should have done instead of the strike

xxx-sct (http://www.losi.com/products/default.aspx?prodid=losb0106)

http://www.losi.com/prodinfo/gallery/losb0106bd_a4.jpg

don't woory can't last?

[Doxiedad]

don't woory can't last?

Huh?

[Ed Pasoquen]

Check this out ! I may have to get one.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=683282

[LITTLEA]

check this out ! I may have to get one.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemid=683282

cool!

[theycallmejam]

Check this out ! I may have to get one.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=683282

looks like 1/8 buggy tires on it

[Doxiedad]

First AE with the Brushless SC10 (http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_44_1171/products_id/178247/n/Team-Associated-SC10-1-10-Scale-RTR-Brushless-Electric-2WD-Short-Course-Race-Truck-Pro-Comp) for $260 now Traxxas with the Slash VXL (http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_44_1171/products_id/191060/n/Traxxas-Slash-VXL-1-10-RTR-Electric-2WD-Short-Course-Truck-w-24GHz-Battery-Wall-Charger) but $360 :confused: Don't think they'll sell many at that price!!

I don't know how Traxxas thinks they'll be able to charge $100 more for a nimh and an overnight charger.

Curious to what the new suspension tuning is, and the steering bellcrank is an improvement, still the SC10 looks like the better deal.

[TagDragger]

Heya y'all , sorry not been on much or out playing much , had a lot going on and couldn't get away . Gonna be working all weekend this weekend and gonna be in Indiana next weekend visiting my Grandma before she passes . She has a tumor on her spine and pancreatic cancer and not doing well , so it's time to make a trip before she goes . I'll be back out to play soon i hope . LOL .

[shinta]

gas sc mmmmm now that might be fun if i could keep a motor running then a day. me a gas cars dont go to geather

[Doxiedad]

Heya y'all , sorry not been on much or out playing much , had a lot going on and couldn't get away . Gonna be working all weekend this weekend and gonna be in Indiana next weekend visiting my Grandma before she passes . She has a tumor on her spine and pancreatic cancer and not doing well , so it's time to make a trip before she goes . I'll be back out to play soon i hope . LOL .

Sorry to hear about your Grandma Chris

[TagDragger]

Thanks Doxie , no worries though . She has lived a full life . And she is still stubborn as hell . LOL .

[theycallmejam]

Thanks Doxie , no worries though . She has lived a full life . And she is still stubborn as hell . LOL .

spend as much time as you can with her, mine passed with cancer returning in her spine, nothing they can do, cept pain management. what grandma inst stubburn as heck. set in there ways, gotta love em